Friday, December 11, 2009

"I want real theology"

Amy, who describes herself as "a 20-something, married, mother-of-two grad student," has weighed in on the subject of women's ordination. 

As this continues to be an unrealized dream for many here in DOR - as exemplified not least by the fact that we have members of the Women's Ordination Conference leading two of our parishes - I expect that Amy's comments might be of interest locally.

From Modern Commentaries ...

I oppose women’s ordination.  Yeah, I know that makes me a horrible oppressor or some drooling brainwashed ignoramus, but I really don’t care.  If you want women priests and bishops, become an Episcopalian.  Just don’t pretend to be martyrs kept down by the Catholic patriarchy because you can’t be ordained.  Here’s my two-part question:

Theologically, what is the basis for women’s ordination within the teachings of the Catholic Church?  And what are the fruits and graces of women’s ordination that will order Catholics toward salvation through Christ?

I don’t want to hear about equality or fairness or feelings or giving women power and a voice within the Church.  Those are not theological arguments.  They are politics, personal and public, masquerading as something slightly resembling theology.  I want real theology, based in a contextual reading of Scripture and in Tradition.  Pick up the Bible, the Catechism, and prove your argument.

Amy's analysis of the agenda underlying the women's ordination movement aligns quite closely with that of Boston College's Professor Peter Kreeft ...

I find that the push for women’s ordination is only a Trojan horse through which theologically liberal types hope to dismantle Catholic teaching on abortion, contraception, marriage and homosexuality.  In other words, it takes Catholicism and removes the last shred of Catholicity – turning us into every other unremarkable denomination out there.  Ordaining women takes away the correct belief that our teachings come from God and cannot be altered for the sake of the politically correct cause du jour, and bolsters the notion that the priests, bishops, and Pope make up this theology as they go along.

Read the complete post here.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

How long before we see 80+ posts of B.S. posted here?

Gen said...

Hopefully our mutual friend will behave himself.

I love it when someone sums something up so simply. Kudos to this young woman for being smart and spot-on. The young people are those upon whom the Church rests. The ones who actually go to Mass, who understand the Sacraments, all are loyal to Tradition and to the Scriptures. Great hope.

Nerina said...

I want to be her friend.

Anon@1:09,

It hasn't all been BS on the other post, has it?

Anonymous said...

"Hopefully our mutual friend will behave himself."

Nothing for me here so far.

In the choir loft said...

Like Nerina, I too want to be this lady's friend. I like the way she writes and thinks.

gretchen said...

Friend is fine, but oh, heck, I'd be proud to be her MOM! (I'm not really old enough, but who's counting?) I pray that my girls grow up to be so wise!

Pilgrim said...

Thank you, God, for Amy who sums it up so succinctly. I know what I believe and what's right but I always seem to be searching for the words.

Anonymous said...

Amy has summed up what I have felt all along, but I could never find the right words for the argument.
As a woman, it's difficult to be against something that superficially seems to be common sense. She was able to get to the heart of the matter.

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Mike said...

Anon. 6:12,

Keep it clean. My granddaughters are regular readers.

Ink said...

I love how this lady thinks. Maybe I can adopt her as my awesome aunt.

Oh, a note on women's ordination that I was going to post in my own blog but never found an appropriate space... after a conversation with a clever, orthodox friend of mine (who sadly lives elsewhere), I completely agree with him on this statement (paraphrased because my memory is bad): "If women are going to ask to be ordained, then fathers should ask to be able to give birth."