tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post7226957423640092673..comments2023-06-28T04:21:47.815-04:00Comments on DOR Catholic: The bishop and the cafeteria CatholicMike Sheahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05152225895101756147noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-88878624886147049272009-11-16T21:23:29.363-05:002009-11-16T21:23:29.363-05:00The lights are bright at Our Lady of Victory.The lights are bright at Our Lady of Victory.Genhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13498022170410597255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-90152200382448582092009-11-16T20:08:05.461-05:002009-11-16T20:08:05.461-05:00I apologize for being a terrible sinner, which I i...I apologize for being a terrible sinner, which I indeed am. I've carefully reread the blog post, and I am now willing to admit that you are right. Thank you.Irondequoit Catholicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-47416238506521976972009-11-16T18:01:15.969-05:002009-11-16T18:01:15.969-05:00You folks don't know anything about me. You&#...You folks don't know anything about me. You're right, you're a waste of time. <br /><br />Enjoy your Super Catholic Club. <br /><br />There aren't enough of you to keep the lights on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-68414827713227318492009-11-16T12:48:59.080-05:002009-11-16T12:48:59.080-05:00I am sorry to have affronted all of your pious sug...I am sorry to have affronted all of your pious suggestions and insinuations. Indeed, I realize now that the Holy Spirit is indeed screaming at me. Perhaps I have been blind? I do still disagree with the war in Iraq and the manner of the war in Afghanistan. However, I have "been converted" i terms of social justice, abortion, etc . . . <br /><br />I was here to pick a fight, and I vow to you all that this is the last you will hear of me. I still have some of my own beliefs, but I have been, as some said a while back, "a massive jerk" and a "moron of morons." In your language, and mine, I must now say, "mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa." Pray for me, brethren, that I may more readily hold my tongue. <br /><br />Thank you for your patience. This is what happens when a middle-aged fellow such as myself has way too much time on a computer! Please forgive my intemperance.Irondequoit Catholicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-70908337267232847892009-11-16T12:17:30.480-05:002009-11-16T12:17:30.480-05:00It's also hilarious that you come in here pret...It's also hilarious that you come in here pretending to be an innocent victim ('oh, I guess I'll be banned again. sigh. poor me. nobody respects me. waa waa waa. I'll plead my case before you meanies decide to ban me. WAAAAA') then you finally show your true colors when you say the following: "You folks picked it with this "cafeteria Catholic" post and <b>your sanctimonious back slapping</b> that you are more Catholic than the rest of us. You are not."<br /><br />You posted with the intention of picking a fight and setting yourself up for a chance to trash people here and promote your progressive agenda. You've been waiting, drooling at the lips for someone to say something that will allow you to unleash comments against us. Then nobody feeds you, and you get called out for trying to pick a fight, so you finally cave and show your true colors. <br /><br />You're pathetic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-38270619466593707852009-11-16T12:13:04.590-05:002009-11-16T12:13:04.590-05:00"You folks picked it with this "cafeteri..."You folks picked it with this "cafeteria Catholic" post and your sanctimonious back slapping that you are more Catholic than the rest of us. You are not."<br /><br />I think I got my answer. There you go again, flapping your lips and ripping everyone here. And some people thought you actually changed... You're the same a--hole who has been flooding blogs with nasty and sometimes blasphemous comments. You're the same person hopping on several different computers to do this at all hours of the day.<br /><br />GET A FREAKIN LIFE. Better yet, go to confession. You probably haven't been there in 3 decades. <br /><br />And get a job too. You have too much time on your hands.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-84217017441212627832009-11-16T09:01:45.056-05:002009-11-16T09:01:45.056-05:00"Irondequoit Catholic, are you trying to pick..."Irondequoit Catholic, are you trying to pick a fight?"<br /><br />You folks picked it with this "cafeteria Catholic" post and your sanctimonious back slapping that you are more Catholic than the rest of us. You are not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-12182669331657447732009-11-16T00:24:08.902-05:002009-11-16T00:24:08.902-05:00Irondequoit Catholic, are you trying to pick a fig...Irondequoit Catholic, are you trying to pick a fight?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-70887484202517773112009-11-15T23:12:36.029-05:002009-11-15T23:12:36.029-05:00"And so my question is: How much louder does ..."And so my question is: How much louder does the Holy Spirit have to scream at you before you will listen to him?"<br /><br />Mike, <br /><br />Pre-VII Latin Mass & First Communion, Catholic school, former altar boy, married 26 years, 3 kids, Mass every Sunday and Holy Days of Obligation, Catholic Worker Movement, Catholic Charities, Open Door Mission, Scout Leader, paid and active member of my parish. <br /><br />Do you speak for the Holy Spirit?<br /><br />How long do you have to scream?<br /><br />God Bless,<br /><br />CatholicAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-57055224223554660782009-11-15T21:01:35.570-05:002009-11-15T21:01:35.570-05:00Gretchen,
Thank you for your very Catholic repl...Gretchen, <br /><br />Thank you for your very Catholic reply. <br /><br />I thank you for your prayers and will pray for you.<br /><br />God Bless, <br /><br />Catholic non-GrataAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-6468592320325136362009-11-15T20:57:09.542-05:002009-11-15T20:57:09.542-05:00Thanks for your replies.
Anon writes,
"I...Thanks for your replies. <br /><br />Anon writes, <br /><br />"Irondequoit Catholic, no, you do not sound like a "Catholic" in the Roman sense to me. Your views sound more in line with the Polish National Catholics, who look the other way when it comes to birth control, and who hold a liberal view on Church teachings. They are schismatic by the way."<br /><br />Anon, <br /><br />How did you feel about the Iraq invasion? How do you feel about capital punishment? Did you disagree with the popes over that? How much money do you give to the poor? What do you do for charity? <br /><br />How Catholic are you?<br /><br />I'll let you and God be the judge. <br /><br />I know I'm Catholic. <br /><br />I come from a long line of Irishmen who had differences of opinion with the clergy but remained loyal and defended the Church for 1,500 years. <br /><br />We are the Catholics who have kept the Church alive throughout the centuries. <br /><br />I will never leave the Church for any reason. I am not schismatic.<br /><br />Some of you sound sympathetic to those who are. <br /><br />Am I going to be banned again for this?<br /><br />If not being a member of the High Five Back Slapping Bishop Clark Hating Club earns me that privilege, ban away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-83789578765150107362009-11-15T11:32:07.365-05:002009-11-15T11:32:07.365-05:00Anon 5:03 is just fishing for something that can f...Anon 5:03 is just fishing for something that can feed his hunger for making snarky attacks against people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-12113659993374743902009-11-15T01:14:17.634-05:002009-11-15T01:14:17.634-05:00Anon 5:03,
Are you Catholic?
Do you want to be?...Anon 5:03,<br /><br />Are you Catholic? <br /><br />Do you want to be? What does it mean to you? Only God can know what's in your heart. None of us is perfect - we are all striving for perfection (or at least we should be) and we are all in various stages of our personal faith journeys. <br /><br />God asks us to live in this world, yet not be <i>of</i> this world. Many of us struggle with things of this world - for some it's money and the acquisition of material possessions, for others it might be contraception or some other worldly temptation. <br /><br />I pray for all of us on our journeys that we might gain wisdom and discernment and that it will become easier and easier to follow God's will.<br /><br />Please pray for me in my day-to-day struggles as I will pray for you.Gretchenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06406460857609798732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-87552220999297919102009-11-14T11:08:41.280-05:002009-11-14T11:08:41.280-05:00Irondequoit Catholic, no, you do not sound like a ...Irondequoit Catholic, no, you do not sound like a "Catholic" in the Roman sense to me. Your views sound more in line with the Polish National Catholics, who look the other way when it comes to birth control, and who hold a liberal view on Church teachings. They are schismatic by the way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-81526998462552588542009-11-14T00:34:32.730-05:002009-11-14T00:34:32.730-05:00Anon. 5:03,
A few points and a question ...
Firs...Anon. 5:03,<br /><br />A few points and a question ...<br /><br />First, Jesus gave the keys to Peter, not to a theologian (or a group of theologians, no matter how large). That makes a pope's ex cathedra declaration infallible, while theologians' opinions will always be just that: their opinions.<br /><br />Second, the pill sometimes does cause abortions by preventing a fertilized egg from implanting itself in the wall of the uterus. You say you "oppose abortion," yet this kind of abortion seems okay with you.<br /><br />Third, you should read Humanae Vitae, especially section 17 (see <a href="http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_25071968_humanae-vitae_en.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>). Paul VI was spot on in his predictions of the dire consequences that would accompany widespread use of artificial contraception. I suspect not very many of your "overwhelming majority of theologians" got that call right.<br /><br />Fourth, the divorce rate for Catholics practicing artificial contraception is about 50%; i.e., essentially the same as that of the general population. The divorce rate for Catholics using NFP methods (i.e., those obeying the Church) is well under 5%.<br /><br />Finally, the "typical use" failure rates for the pill and NFP are roughly identical, while long term use of the pill carries a significant risk of detrimental side effects and long term use of NFP carries none.<br /><br />And so my question is: How much louder does the Holy Spirit have to scream at you before you will listen to him?Mike Sheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05152225895101756147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-50879165744938975962009-11-13T23:25:07.336-05:002009-11-13T23:25:07.336-05:00I don't know if you're a Catholics, that&#...I don't know if you're a Catholics, that's between you and God. I do know that you're a stalker and have no life at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-89499843846613635242009-11-13T17:03:54.027-05:002009-11-13T17:03:54.027-05:00I am a baptized Catholic. I attend Mass every Sun...I am a baptized Catholic. I attend Mass every Sunday. I oppose abortion. I oppose capital punishment except in cases of where effective incarceration of murders is impossible. I opposed the Iraq War invasion as did our current and former pope. I supported the Afghanistan invasion although now I agree with my 84 year-old mother that it should have been a police action to arrest or kill Bin Laden and his allies who were directly behind 9/11, not to invade a country that did not attack us. I believe the Church’s teaching regarding the preferential option for the poor including government help when individual charity is inadequate. I believe the Church's teaching that health care is a right, not a privilege, and should be universal. I disagree with the Church's absolute prohibition on contraception between married Catholics as did the overwhelming majority of theologians Pope Paul called to examine the issue and the majority of Catholics who attend Mass on a regular basis today. I think most annulments are a crock. I would never leave the Church. <br /><br />Am I Catholic? <br /><br />If not, do you really want to lose "Catholics" like me and our money? Are there enough of "you" to pay the bills?<br /><br />For honesty, please list your agreements and disagreements with me and how they define your answer.<br /><br />I will probably be banned again soon so add your voice if it matters. I'm really interested to know if most of you think I'm Catholic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-41266602922775442042009-11-11T20:48:05.338-05:002009-11-11T20:48:05.338-05:00Sweet! Someone who can and does address the deran...Sweet! Someone who can and does address the deranged politicians who claim to be sticking to their faith. Nancy... Speaker... are you reading this? Senator Leahy... are you out there?Joe E.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-55933905509861762962009-11-11T09:25:07.247-05:002009-11-11T09:25:07.247-05:00Sent a letter after his initial response a couple ...Sent a letter after his initial response a couple weeks ago, should prolly send another thank-you his way!Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-24999401854177703922009-11-11T07:48:44.461-05:002009-11-11T07:48:44.461-05:00This is an excellent letter and an excellent bisho...This is an excellent letter and an excellent bishop. It all seems so obvious when it sets it out so plainly.Ben Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11895692497752102851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-13399871325343866862009-11-11T06:31:24.222-05:002009-11-11T06:31:24.222-05:00When you pray the 2nd decade of The Glorious Myste...When you pray the 2nd decade of The Glorious Mysteries, please intend them for our Bishops - the ones left behind to guide the flock.<br /><br />Fast for vocations. It also strengthens those already called.<br /><br />God BlessMr. Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-45779136126376773302009-11-10T23:18:43.379-05:002009-11-10T23:18:43.379-05:00This bishop is now my hero.This bishop is now my hero.Inkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14436063825172153343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3421048675188238799.post-70900360577905959712009-11-10T22:23:12.038-05:002009-11-10T22:23:12.038-05:00I sent an email to Bishop Tobin to thank him for b...I sent an email to Bishop Tobin to thank him for being a true shepherd to his diocesan flock and, by his example, to all Catholics in the United States in general.In the choir lofthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05069480203969927663noreply@blogger.com